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POELT Pay

Post by TangoVictor » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:48 am

Hello,

Anyone know anything about pay during POELT? I’ve received my contract/letter of employment and opened it to find my “salary including shift allowance” is significantly lower than what I applied for … just over £6000 lower …

I called SSCL, and the guy didn’t even open my application he just said “you get paid this in OPOELT and the rest is non-contractual and it’ll be backdated.”

That seems odd to me, if you’re gonna pay me afterwards anyway?

Anyone had any experience of this?

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Re: POELT Pay

Post by TangoVictor » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:49 am

P.S. - i did do a search and all i seem to find is "you get your full pay from the start"
nobody seems to be missing £6000 :sloo:
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Post by SWM5436 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:03 pm

The salary quoted is for a 39 hour contract with your £5000 on top. POELT is 37 hr week basic contract and according to the paperwork I have the bonus will be paid over the 12 months including the POELT.

You will still be less than that quoted whilst on poelt but as the bonus isn't actually your contracted pay it isn't included in the information you are given.

You start off on 37 hrs and when at the establishment following poelt you will be given the option to do 39 or 41 if you want or stay at 37 and do the PP on offer.
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Re: POELT Pay

Post by TangoVictor » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:16 pm

Mate, you are correct as I've called and asked for a proper explanation.
You know too much, swear you work for SSCL.

Thanks though

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Post by SWM5436 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:45 pm

Believe it or not, this isn't the first time it's been asked.
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Post by SassySez » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:40 pm

From what I worked out.. you won't get shift allowance during POELT because you're not doing the course on weekends, nights or during unsociable hours..

I know you stay late one evening a week but that's to make up your 37 hour working week, on a normal ED you will be expected to stay at work until 9pm (or whenever relief arrives).

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Post by Redruth1234 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:54 pm

I'm currently on week 9 at Newbold, you get your full pay which includes 17% shift allowance. I hope this clears this up.

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Post by Burtonboy » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:58 pm

Redruth1234 wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:54 pm
I'm currently on week 9 at Newbold, you get your full pay which includes 17% shift allowance. I hope this clears this up.
What is the pay for poelt? Is it 21k ish

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Re: POELT Pay

Post by Redruth1234 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:20 pm

After pension it's 1400 take home, this is 37 hours

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Re: POELT Pay

Post by K123 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:21 pm

Then after your poelt is that when you chooose which contract you sign up too?
22nd April - RAD
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Post by K123 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:21 pm

Then after your poelt is that when you chooose which contract you sign up too?
22nd April - RAD
28th April - RAD results passed/OH Assist Returned
12th May - Merit Listed
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Post by SWM5436 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:01 pm

Your pay will depend on your basic pay plus the supplement you receive, if you are in a prison that pays it, so what one person recieves may not necessarily be what you will get.

Once you have finished poelt and start at your establishment you can change your contract to 39 or 41 if your jail offers it.
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Re: POELT Pay

Post by Burtonboy » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:40 pm

I was just trying to see what basic pay was, I keep seeing 22k talked about after the pay rise, but all the figures I’ve seen show 21k ish for new starters, obviously that’s without any market force payments.

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Re: POELT Pay

Post by K123 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:36 pm

If I’ve done my maths right... 22396 then after tax it’s 18504, so after ni and tax it’s 1542 then whatever they take for pension
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Re: POELT Pay

Post by manc-apollo » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:02 pm

Your basic wage on 37hr contract is about 17.500 plus 17% anti social hours somewhere around 21k. Your monthly wage afrer tax and pension without other market supplements is around £1.395 maybe, £1,420.

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