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Re: Assertiveness over friendliness

Post by Celticbhoy » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:06 pm

Day to day I always treat prisoners like I would want or expect to be treated. I always give them the benefit of the doubt but at the same time being aware of any other motive but 9 times out of 10 you know who's at it as most of the time you aren't dealing with criminal masterminds lol.

Only this morning I helped a prisoner fill a survey in due to his poor literacy skills. Took a minute out of my day but I knew he appreciated it. Yes the older dinosaurs wouldn't have done it but the service has changed. The days of only opening and closing the doors with the odd cuff around the head are gone. I'm by know means the social work type but some times they only need a minute of our time for help with something that seems simple for us but without it these things can escalate due to frustration etc. If you have the time then by all means help who you feel genuinely need and want it.

It's not like you were bringing "gear" in or doing him favours.

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Re: Assertiveness over friendliness

Post by Mercedes16 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:10 pm

Finally some one who sees my point lol ...
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Re: Assertiveness over friendliness

Post by Celticbhoy » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:11 pm

When I don't have time to help with things like paperwork or reading I will always get 1 of the passmen to help him out. Imagine yous have them down south but possibly go by a different name

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Re: Assertiveness over friendliness

Post by Celticbhoy » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:20 pm

Everyone will find there own way of working that suits them. I have no issue saying no but will never say it just because I can't be arsed either looking into something or doing something.

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Re: Assertiveness over friendliness

Post by SWM5436 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:22 pm

I would gladly help someone in need of my assistance if I had the time to do so and I certainly wouldn't be judging anyone simply on the fact that they are in prison.

However there are those that will look to manipulate you and if they find a weakness then they will try to exploit it, as long as everything you do for them is legal and above board then there shouldn't be a problem.
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Re: Assertiveness over friendliness

Post by Mercedes16 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:32 pm

:slag: :slag: :slag: :slag:

Couldn’t agree more Celtic .. it’s alot more than opening and closing doors I am starting this as a career to help people and do some good in the world .. give a little back I guess I’m aware of all aspects of how things can pan out manipulation etc but like u say as long as it’s legal and above board and you have time why not do a little good and help someone out... ANYONE .. can end up in prison each have different circumstances.. why judge? But yes as you say maybe it’s dinosaurs have a different way of working from back in the day!! But yes we will each find our own path and what works for us and the inmates were in contact with :slre:
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Re: Assertiveness over friendliness

Post by Celticbhoy » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:43 pm

Only advice is don't break prison rules or the law and don't be afraid to say no. If you think someone is taking the mick or another officer says they are then nip it in the butt there and then.

If your doing your job properly then in my opinion odds are you will be respected but not always liked.

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Re: Assertiveness over friendliness

Post by TangoVictor » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:20 pm

Mercedes16 wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:10 pm
Finally some one who sees my point lol ...
I never didn’t see your point. I was sharing some words of wisdom from a senior officer. Undoubtedly we should all treat each other how we want to be treated and as per the above the posts the service is changing.

But always be mindful and aware. That’s all. Nothing wrong with helping people but doesn’t mean you have to say “yes” every time.

P.s. how the hell do I make my signature? Can’t for the life of me find it on the UCP ....
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Re: Assertiveness over friendliness

Post by Mercedes16 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:38 pm

Celticbhoy wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:43 pm
Only advice is don't break prison rules or the law and don't be afraid to say no. If you think someone is taking the mick or another officer says they are then nip it in the butt there and then.

If your doing your job properly then in my opinion odds are you will be respected but not always liked.
Goes with out saying!! 🙂
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Re: Assertiveness over friendliness

Post by Mercedes16 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:43 pm

TangoVictor wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:20 pm
Mercedes16 wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:10 pm
Finally some one who sees my point lol ...
I never didn’t see your point. I was sharing some words of wisdom from a senior officer. Undoubtedly we should all treat each other how we want to be treated and as per the above the posts the service is changing.

But always be mindful and aware. That’s all. Nothing wrong with helping people but doesn’t mean you have to say “yes” every time.

P.s. how the hell do I make my signature? Can’t for the life of me find it on the UCP ....
Ahh ok .. no worries kinda thought I was on my own there for a while lol

Well strangely I had the same problem with the ucp it wasn’t there either at 1st I don’t know why mine seemed to appear when I had made a few posts and became a registered member for some reason.. but yh u are probably looking in the right place ucp- profile then signature I’ll see if I can take a screen shot of my page now ..
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Re: Assertiveness over friendliness

Post by Mercedes16 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:45 pm

It should be there .. if it’s not then try posting a few messages across the board see if it appears when your online starus changes!!
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Re: Assertiveness over friendliness

Post by Natasha1980 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:35 am

That's a good start all the prisoners are differant and they are humans I wish you all the luck in your new role
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